Dagger (garnetdagger) wrote,
Dagger
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Scary?

Didn't mean to scare the poor guy like that. Wish he hadn't had to deal with that psycho bitch person. Gives honest systems like us a bad rep. That's not fun to deal with. And if we're going to be doing learning stuff with him, then naturally more of us are going to be coming out and getting to know him.

Pretty sure he's already interacted with some bits of Naomi over computergeekery. By the way, dear, I think it's about time we dropped the nickname; she's not that fragile anymore after class.

Threat rating from him: near to zero. He would be dangerous, potentially, if he were an enemy, but he's not, so he'll be someone good to have at our back.
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I don't know if it's so much scared as... disconcerted.

Even beyond Melody, my training is to be a psychologist. You could say that part of my job would be to make you obsolete...

Hmm. I suppose the problem is that post-Melody I trained myself to depersonalise 'others', after having to learn to personalise them for her.

I'm quite sure that we'll figure it out - as you say, if I'm going to be learning stuff I'll end up dealing with more than just Azz.

> He would be dangerous, potentially, if he were an enemy

Woo! Daaangerous... Oh. Umm. Sorry. ;o)

I never really see myself as 'dangerous'...

Oh! And, since I flinched from it earlier, I should probably introduced myself. I'm John, going to marry E, if she doesn't come to her senses first. Good to meet you.
'Dangerous', from her, is a complement.
*nods*

I was treating it as such, in a lighthearted manner. :o)

I don't know if I could agree with that assessment. I just can't see myself as 'dangerous'...
If E were threatened, you would be in a heartbeat.
In theory, yes.

In practise, I doubt my /ability/ to be dangerous.

I lack the physical skills necessary to inflict the pain I would wish to inflict on anyone or anything which threatened E, and other people that I care about.

I suppose it's possible that I could use some sort of 'brute-force' psychic/magical attack, but I'm not skillful in that area.
I trust that were it more than theoretical, you would find a way to do it, using any means at hand. You don't strike me as one of the ones who'd freeze up if there was a moment for action, but you never can tell until that moment.

She doubted that we'd be able to do anything in a situation, but we proved that wrong.

I think that you would be too mad to be thinking about whether you were capable of doing it or not, you just would be doing it.

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Of course, having introduced yourself to everybody up front, you've done the introductions to everybody; everybody here just hasn't said hello to you ourselves. We're cooperative and share memories.
Ah.

*nods*
So in any case people are dealing with "more than just Azz"; like having a bunch of stuff running in the background.

The only real difference is whether some of the others are allowed to come out or not.

I'm not just the primary personality; I'm also the coordinator and front personality, and if necessary to appear unified in public, I speak for all.
Ahh.

You're a combination of the kernel and init (in a Linux system - in a mach microkernel system like Mac OS X, you'd be init, mach_init and kextd), I suppose... yeah?

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We've been integrated before, with no identity loss. So psychology training isn't very off-putting. Suspect that permanent integration won't occur until the ass of the depression gets kicked once and for all.
*nods*

It's off-putting to me, though. :o)

I had this same thing with Melody at first. How to react to the others...

I mean - and no disrespect to any involved - it's confusing when you start dealing with what you initially perceive as the symptoms of an illness as if they were a 'real person' (in quotes, since that's a quite horribly offensive phrase to use, but I'm tired and really can't think of anything better - I apologise). Perhaps my /lack/ of training shows here. I'm not yet a psychologist, I'm just a wannabe.
Ah. You'd be far worse off if you'd been introduced to me being plural by meeting Marah on one of the bad days, then.

I think of it more as being multiple-boot in order to be able to run all required functionality.
Kernel modules, in a microkernel. You need to load the modules to do basic stuff (unlike a monolithic kernel like linux), and different modules correspond to different functions.

Marah is the only one I don't know anything about, I think. (I was thinking about who was the fourth.)

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...and unless we were going to get into a relationship where you would be in a position to be helping us debug, you wouldn't be seeing much of Marah on the bad days, if we could help it at all.

(Marah on the bad days? Depressed teenager with PMS. Very few would wish to talk to Marah on the bad days.)
Aaah.
Multiple personality disorder is a method for handling stress, and is not necessarily an illness. It's not even necessarily a *dis*order; it can simply be another way of ordering one's mind. It is only a disorder if one is not capable of functioning in day-to-day life well and interacting with the rest of the world. In the same way that I am a high-functioning Asperger's, one would have to say that Joan (naming the body/holder) is a high-functioning multiple.

Considering it an illness is an old and outdated way of looking at it, and can result in harm being done to the client if they trust you too much, and believe that their personalities are somehow "wrong". Azz is in need of help and therapy in dealing with stresses and issues, sure, and the fact that she's not good at dealing with stress is *why* she split, but the *fact* that she split is not something that needs to be "treated". It's a benign symptom, if you will, and the "disease", if anything, is poor stress management.

I can give you a summation on Azz's multiples and how best to deal with them, but not without her permission. Up until now I don't feel that I've said anything you can't figure out just from reading her public journal.
You said it better than I could; I was wondering how to say essentially the same thing without sounding far too crazy. Somehow, when someone says something of you, it's better than you saying it yourself, if the person who's listening is disposed to think of you as nuts to start with.

Because, from the paranoid perspective that I am crazy and just doing a good job hiding it, anything I say that sounds like I think I'm not crazy is either (baji-naji) a very smooth lie or deep denial.

You may give him a summary; however, there's been quite a bit of growth since the last time we really had an in-depth talk about anything going on inside personalitywise, so some of your information may be a little out of date. (Which is a hazard in any field.)

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I'm John, going to marry E, if she doesn't come to her senses first.

*raises eyebrow*

I would rather phrase it as "if I have any sense at all, I'll marry you." ;)

Fortunately for both of us, I have a lot of sense. *grin*
Well, yes, I'm sure that you would put it that way...

...but that's just 'cause you've not come to your senses yet. ;o)
You need some serious debugging yourself, my friend. I believe I'm a bit farther along in my counselling training than you are, if you ever decide that you're actually willing to *talk* to me...

:)

(Yes, you can call and talk to me as well as E.)
I'm not really getting 'counselling' training at all... at least not at this level.

Actually, at the moment, I don't think I /could/ call and talk to you, due to timing issues. Beyond that, I'd hope that you'd not take offence if I said that I'd want to save me money for calling E. We can talk online once you've sorted out your DSL woes. :o)

Oh, and E fears you picking up my Scottish accent. ;o)

And... debugging? I wouldn't mind if someone could recompile my kernel to access more memory... It gets annoying, since I apparently have a 32 bit architecture for a brain.

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Totally unrelated to the conversation thread (which, by the way, I find very interesting), I just friended you. (I didn't have you friended before mainly because I didn't feel I knew you well enough)
That works. We've probably spoken before, every now and then, on IM. Usually swapping back and forth goes unremarked.
Totally unrelated to the conversation thread (which, by the way, I find very interesting), I just friended you. (I didn't have you friended before mainly because I didn't feel I knew you well enough)